I bought the vintage cage fittings to use as an espalier for existing fruit trees (as illustrated in the catalogue). Unfortunately the uprights flex easily and are not strong enough (however deep you put them in the ground) to withstand any sort of windy conditions. I suspect that these uprights etc work well when made up as a cage but they do not work as a free standing espalier. I was very disappointed as the appearance was just what was wanted. To add to my disappointment sending them back cost me about £35 as I lost the postage on the two delivered packages and had to pay for the courier to collect (at over 2m long and extremely heavy there was no alternative other than courier collect). What a shame.